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		<title>By: Mark W. Schumann</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark W. Schumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think my original post is incomplete without a link to Harlan Ellison&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;outstanding speech&lt;/a&gt; about getting paid for creative work. If the &quot;MF Word&quot; bothers you, okay, but I &lt;3 this rant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my original post is incomplete without a link to Harlan Ellison&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE" rel="nofollow">outstanding speech</a> about getting paid for creative work. If the &#8220;MF Word&#8221; bothers you, okay, but I &lt;3 this rant.</p>
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		<title>By: techherding</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-232</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I once implemented a &quot;one hour per week&quot; limit on a client for conference calls.  I don&#039;t bill hourly, so I said that he could buy additional time in blocks of ten hours for an additional 10% on top of the additional budget.  As I recall, the project was well over $30K.

It was amazing how I suddenly could call in at the top of the hour, answer two questions, and disconnect to get back to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once implemented a &#8220;one hour per week&#8221; limit on a client for conference calls.  I don&#8217;t bill hourly, so I said that he could buy additional time in blocks of ten hours for an additional 10% on top of the additional budget.  As I recall, the project was well over $30K.</p>
<p>It was amazing how I suddenly could call in at the top of the hour, answer two questions, and disconnect to get back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark W. Schumann</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark W. Schumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah! So true, &quot;TechHerding&quot; Dick.

Another sign of a non-project project is when they swear they are doing the most amazing technical thing ever imagined. Sorry, no, you&#039;re just not.

I had one guy who insisted his new crypto system would take over the world &lt;em&gt;if only I could implement it in code.&lt;/em&gt; I looked at the algorithm and said dude, all this does is take a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; more memory and processing power than necessary to crank out something like a 256-bit key. It was literally a calculator trick. (Of course I passed on that one.)

People who are unrealistic about how awesome their idea is are rarely any more realistic about making solid plans and following through with them.

I am &lt;em&gt;totally&lt;/em&gt; hearing you on the conference calls! Oy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! So true, &#8220;TechHerding&#8221; Dick.</p>
<p>Another sign of a non-project project is when they swear they are doing the most amazing technical thing ever imagined. Sorry, no, you&#8217;re just not.</p>
<p>I had one guy who insisted his new crypto system would take over the world <em>if only I could implement it in code.</em> I looked at the algorithm and said dude, all this does is take a <em>lot</em> more memory and processing power than necessary to crank out something like a 256-bit key. It was literally a calculator trick. (Of course I passed on that one.)</p>
<p>People who are unrealistic about how awesome their idea is are rarely any more realistic about making solid plans and following through with them.</p>
<p>I am <em>totally</em> hearing you on the conference calls! Oy!</p>
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		<title>By: techherding</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-230</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I enjoy watching those &quot;house flipping&quot; videos on cable and yelling ourselves hoarse at the screen.  It usually works like this.

STEP ONE:
&quot;Flipper&quot; gets five bids for their unrealistic plans, sketched on a wet napkin.  Cheapest contractor gets the job without asking any questions at all.  Work begins, stuff is torn apart, supplies (cheapest available) are ordered.

STEP TWO:
All forward progress ceases.  Contractor nowhere to be seen.  An occasional appearance is made by a guy in a bandanna eating a burrito on an upended paint can in the backyard, but communication is impossible without Rosetta Stones.

STEP THREE:
They bring in another contractor -- this time without even a napkin plan, simply because HE&#039;S THE ONLY GUY WHO CAN START THIS AFTERNOON.  (Hint:  Ask yourself why he&#039;s not on another job.)

STEP FOUR:
Loop to step two and repeat.

Some of my hints of trouble ahead:

  No real price objections or discussion at all (I&#039;m not cheap)
  Everything goes through some &quot;corporate office&quot;
  Big problem in getting a solid deposit up front
  Won&#039;t communicate in writing (email), only telephone
  Signs off on all major deliverables with no discussion at all
  Goes on and on about IP rights.  (Usually hints they&#039;ve been sued.)
  Can&#039;t / won&#039;t connect you with previous contractor for questions.
  Lots of long, meaningless conference calls for me to attend]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I enjoy watching those &#8220;house flipping&#8221; videos on cable and yelling ourselves hoarse at the screen.  It usually works like this.</p>
<p>STEP ONE:<br />
&#8220;Flipper&#8221; gets five bids for their unrealistic plans, sketched on a wet napkin.  Cheapest contractor gets the job without asking any questions at all.  Work begins, stuff is torn apart, supplies (cheapest available) are ordered.</p>
<p>STEP TWO:<br />
All forward progress ceases.  Contractor nowhere to be seen.  An occasional appearance is made by a guy in a bandanna eating a burrito on an upended paint can in the backyard, but communication is impossible without Rosetta Stones.</p>
<p>STEP THREE:<br />
They bring in another contractor &#8212; this time without even a napkin plan, simply because HE&#8217;S THE ONLY GUY WHO CAN START THIS AFTERNOON.  (Hint:  Ask yourself why he&#8217;s not on another job.)</p>
<p>STEP FOUR:<br />
Loop to step two and repeat.</p>
<p>Some of my hints of trouble ahead:</p>
<p>  No real price objections or discussion at all (I&#8217;m not cheap)<br />
  Everything goes through some &#8220;corporate office&#8221;<br />
  Big problem in getting a solid deposit up front<br />
  Won&#8217;t communicate in writing (email), only telephone<br />
  Signs off on all major deliverables with no discussion at all<br />
  Goes on and on about IP rights.  (Usually hints they&#8217;ve been sued.)<br />
  Can&#8217;t / won&#8217;t connect you with previous contractor for questions.<br />
  Lots of long, meaningless conference calls for me to attend</p>
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		<title>By: Mark W. Schumann</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark W. Schumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know for a fact, Brian, but I think the &quot;last guy&quot; was not totally okay with how things were going either, although his direct motivation for leaving this project was a job offer out of town.

And yes, I agree that this &quot;Ben&quot; is likely having similar problems with other projects--and wondering why reliable help is so darned hard to find.

I don&#039;t have the facts on this particular case either, but a pattern I see a lot is an employer or primary contractor lowballing a bid to get the work, and then pushing the lowballing down to the people who actually design, develop, implement, and test. Which is wrong. If you&#039;re lowballing a project bid to get the work, that budget issue is &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; problem and &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; responsibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know for a fact, Brian, but I think the &#8220;last guy&#8221; was not totally okay with how things were going either, although his direct motivation for leaving this project was a job offer out of town.</p>
<p>And yes, I agree that this &#8220;Ben&#8221; is likely having similar problems with other projects&#8211;and wondering why reliable help is so darned hard to find.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the facts on this particular case either, but a pattern I see a lot is an employer or primary contractor lowballing a bid to get the work, and then pushing the lowballing down to the people who actually design, develop, implement, and test. Which is wrong. If you&#8217;re lowballing a project bid to get the work, that budget issue is <em>your</em> problem and <em>your</em> responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Crawford</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Crawford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great story. 

It makes me wonder if the very reason this Ben fellow is in trouble in first place is due to his treating others the way he treated you before you got involved.  The reason the original PHP guy may have left was because he was being underpaid, under-communicated with, and guess what - apparently he wasn&#039;t under any kind of contract either (or was he salaried?), to be able to walk away with the job 90% done.

Ben may get this project completed, but with his sort of work ethic his luck probably won&#039;t last.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story. </p>
<p>It makes me wonder if the very reason this Ben fellow is in trouble in first place is due to his treating others the way he treated you before you got involved.  The reason the original PHP guy may have left was because he was being underpaid, under-communicated with, and guess what &#8211; apparently he wasn&#8217;t under any kind of contract either (or was he salaried?), to be able to walk away with the job 90% done.</p>
<p>Ben may get this project completed, but with his sort of work ethic his luck probably won&#8217;t last.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark W. Schumann</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark W. Schumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny thing is, Rob, I wasn&#039;t trying to get anything special. Well, okay, you&#039;re right--the zero-day terms is a little unusual. But as it turns out, Pseudonymous Ben wasn&#039;t prepared to agree to 30-day or even 60-day terms, so that was moot.

I&#039;m not sure the relationship between fees and respect is linear or even monotonic.

Avonelle, one of my really big red flags is... if you&#039;re going out to lunch together, and he drives, it&#039;s all start/stop, tailgating, that sort of thing. Actually, aggressive behavior of any kind (unless really called for by circumstances) is almost always a negative indicator.

Harsh criticism of &quot;the last guy&quot; is a big one too. It&#039;s one thing to say, &quot;It didn&#039;t work out, in my opinion for such and so reasons.&quot; Quite another to insult that person or company.

Along those lines, if they talk about lawsuits a lot. Yeah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is, Rob, I wasn&#8217;t trying to get anything special. Well, okay, you&#8217;re right&#8211;the zero-day terms is a little unusual. But as it turns out, Pseudonymous Ben wasn&#8217;t prepared to agree to 30-day or even 60-day terms, so that was moot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure the relationship between fees and respect is linear or even monotonic.</p>
<p>Avonelle, one of my really big red flags is&#8230; if you&#8217;re going out to lunch together, and he drives, it&#8217;s all start/stop, tailgating, that sort of thing. Actually, aggressive behavior of any kind (unless really called for by circumstances) is almost always a negative indicator.</p>
<p>Harsh criticism of &#8220;the last guy&#8221; is a big one too. It&#8217;s one thing to say, &#8220;It didn&#8217;t work out, in my opinion for such and so reasons.&#8221; Quite another to insult that person or company.</p>
<p>Along those lines, if they talk about lawsuits a lot. Yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Drysdale</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Drysdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark,
I was not trying to imply that you were trying to get something for nothing here at all.  I was trying to say that people like Ben always think they deserve to get a &quot;deal&quot; or a break on whatever it is, but they are offended whenever someone tries to do the same thing to them.  It is not at all what you were trying to do here as you were trying to help someone out and provide them with value (albeit at a lower rate than you normally charge).  And to your point in your comment, if people don&#039;t respect you, you&#039;re not charging enough.....or conversely, if you don&#039;t charge enough, people will never respect you.

I just had a conversation about this with an accountant friend of mine that I could help some people with my spare time with accounting and financial help (an extra skill I have).  He said the same thing that if I did it for free or didn&#039;t charge a high enough fee then the people would never see/recognize the value of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
I was not trying to imply that you were trying to get something for nothing here at all.  I was trying to say that people like Ben always think they deserve to get a &#8220;deal&#8221; or a break on whatever it is, but they are offended whenever someone tries to do the same thing to them.  It is not at all what you were trying to do here as you were trying to help someone out and provide them with value (albeit at a lower rate than you normally charge).  And to your point in your comment, if people don&#8217;t respect you, you&#8217;re not charging enough&#8230;..or conversely, if you don&#8217;t charge enough, people will never respect you.</p>
<p>I just had a conversation about this with an accountant friend of mine that I could help some people with my spare time with accounting and financial help (an extra skill I have).  He said the same thing that if I did it for free or didn&#8217;t charge a high enough fee then the people would never see/recognize the value of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Murdoch</title>
		<link>http://blog.criticalresults.com/2010/03/04/grumpy/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy Murdoch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is certainly a special place in hell for people like [Pseudonymous] Ben. In fact that place is filled with people like [Pseudonymous] Ben and they are perpetually trying to take advantage of each other and never quite succeeding. The fear and frustration level must be extraordinary.

Imagine having to spend eternity with people as awful or worse than you. 

Brrrh!

Good article by the way, Mark.

Wishing you a future filled with awesome clients who think you&#039;re a rock star and treat you like one.

Judy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is certainly a special place in hell for people like [Pseudonymous] Ben. In fact that place is filled with people like [Pseudonymous] Ben and they are perpetually trying to take advantage of each other and never quite succeeding. The fear and frustration level must be extraordinary.</p>
<p>Imagine having to spend eternity with people as awful or worse than you. </p>
<p>Brrrh!</p>
<p>Good article by the way, Mark.</p>
<p>Wishing you a future filled with awesome clients who think you&#8217;re a rock star and treat you like one.</p>
<p>Judy</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Ramos</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actual Ben is a Wise Ben.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actual Ben is a Wise Ben.</p>
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